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		<title>How to dismantle a Logitech G15 keyboard</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Logitech G15 got wet again and none of the keys were working. The logical thing to do, then, is to take it apart and try to figure out what&#8217;s wrong with it.
Note: Don&#8217;t try this at home. It WILL irrevocably void your warranty, and you can easily cause permanent damage to the keyboard.

First, we [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logitech_G15">Logitech G15</a> got wet again and none of the keys were working. The logical thing to do, then, is to take it apart and try to figure out what&#8217;s wrong with it.</p>
<p><strong>Note: Don&#8217;t try this at home. It <em>WILL</em> irrevocably void your warranty, and you can easily cause permanent damage to the keyboard.</strong></p>
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<p>First, we need to unscrew all the screws on the bottom plate. The top plate is also locked down by a bunch of plastic hooks, which can be pulled back with the help of a thin screwdriver. Be careful with the silver plastic, since it scratches very easily.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-36" title="dismantle-g15-1" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-1-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-37" title="dismantle-g15-2" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-2-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>The LCD is attached to the top cover with a small FPCB to the main circuit. It can be removed by pulling up the little clamp that holds it in the socket.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-3.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-38" title="dismantle-g15-3" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-3-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-4.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-39" title="dismantle-g15-4" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-4-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>All of the important electronics are at the top of the keyboard. It&#8217;s rare for the electronics to break during a spill since most of the water gets on the keys themselves. Our next task is to remove the silver plastic panel, the one on which all the keys are.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-5.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-40" title="dismantle-g15-5" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-5-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-6.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-41" title="dismantle-g15-6" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-6-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>First, it has to be unscrewed. The clear plastic bits that go under it also unscrew at the top, and the FPCB connections can be carefully detached by easing them out of their sockets.</p>
<p>Again, there are plastic hooks holding it in place. These are easier to go around. The bottom ones can be released by bending and twisting the keyboard a bit, and if not there are a handy set of holes one can use to get to them with a thin screwdriver.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-8.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-42" title="dismantle-g15-8" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-8-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-9.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-43" title="dismantle-g15-9" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-9-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-10.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-44" title="dismantle-g15-10" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-10-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>This should get the keyplate separated from the keyboard.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-11.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-45" title="dismantle-g15-11" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-11-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-12.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-46" title="dismantle-g15-12" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-12-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-13.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-47" title="dismantle-g15-13" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-13-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>Underneath it, we can see a clear plastic plate and the LEDs used for backlighting the keys. Some of it&#8217;s wet; I&#8217;m on the right track. The real problem lies under it though, so lets get that off too.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-14.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-48" title="dismantle-g15-14" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-14-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-15.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-49" title="dismantle-g15-15" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-15-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>The backlighting LEDs and their circuits sit in the gaps in the plastic. All those litle white dots diffuse the LED light all over the keyboard.</p>
<p>Beneath it, we have a flexible PCB printed on a transparent substrate. This is what detects keystrokes. It&#8217;s made up of three layers. All those little lines are a very thin layer of conductive material. The middle layer is just a separator that keeps them separated until a key pushes them together. Every top-bottom combination is unique, and when they&#8217;re connected, the keyboard can figure out which key&#8217;s being pressed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-16.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-50" title="dismantle-g15-16" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-16-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-17.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-51" title="dismantle-g15-17" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-17-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>What pushes them together is this rubber membrane, which also makes the keys pop back up after being pressed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-18.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-52" title="dismantle-g15-18" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-18-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-19.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-53" title="dismantle-g15-19" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-19-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>The problem with this, is that these FPCBs are extremely easy to erode with liquids. Having killed a Saitek Eclipse keyboard before by spilling stuff on it, I already know what to look for&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-20.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-54" title="dismantle-g15-20" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-20-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>Dirty, dissolved or corroded connections. This spells doom for all any any keys that they connect to. I&#8217;m still trying to find a good way to clean these that&#8217;ll keep them intact, and I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s even possible. A wet cotton Q-tip seems to do the job, but it&#8217;s important not to use any cleaning products, because they melt the connections right off.</p>
<p>They can be easily tested with a multimeter. Most have a setting that will beep if there&#8217;s a connection.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-21.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-56" title="dismantle-g15-21" src="http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dismantle-g15-21-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>Those top connections are definately dead. Just my luck, these control the space bar, the letters A, Z, and parts of the keypad. Not exactly ignorable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve called Logitech, and they don&#8217;t sell separate parts. So I either fix it, or get a new keyboard.</p>
<p>Last time, I tried to repair the Saitek using liquid silver. However, the way it is, it&#8217;s hard to apply and takes ages to dry, and, well, didn&#8217;t work. This time I want to try a silver ink pen, which is claimed to be the same, but easier to use.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve ordered one off eBay. While it doesn&#8217;t come in, I&#8217;ll be using a generic crapo-cheapo keyboard.</p>
<p>Exciting conclusion coming soon.</p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t pull out the Logitech G15&#8217;s keys</title>
		<link>http://www.sunstormlabs.net/blog/2008/04/28/dont-pull-out-the-logitech-g15s-keys/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#8217;d think that the Logitech G15, the greatest achievement in keyboard technology known to man, would react better to the common task of removing the keys to clean the coke I just snorted all over it (I&#8217;m talking about the drink; the G15 handles powder spills just fine). And yet, now the keys are sticking if they&#8217;re [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think that the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logitech_G15">Logitech G15</a>, the greatest achievement in keyboard technology known to man, would react better to the common task of removing the keys to clean the coke I just snorted all over it (I&#8217;m talking about the drink; the G15 handles powder spills just fine). And yet, now the keys are sticking if they&#8217;re not pressed exactly in the middle.</p>
<p>It seems that the plastic hooks that keep the keys upright don&#8217;t take too well to bending, and now that I pried them out, the bent hooks let the keys play from side to side. So pressing the key slightly from the side will make it tilt and get stuck in its shaft, making it hard to press, and sometimes making it stick.</p>
<p>One of the greatest offenders is the left Ctrl key, which now makes it hell to copy and paste, and the F key, which now makes it hell to tell Logitech to go Fuck themselves for making me consider dropping a hundred bucks every time I want to clean my keyboard.</p>
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